Thursday, October 9, 2008

Government Crumbling, Opposition Stumbling.


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Came across this in The Malaysian Insider which ended with this quote:


".... at a time when Malaysia needs clever leadership more than ever, the sad choice is between who stinks less. - The Age "


This article is titled "The Government is crumbling, but the Opposition is stumbling."


And should I add..."The People are moaning".


What are the dishes that are being served to us?


PM : Najib?


DPM : May the Good Lord have mercy upon us?


Anwar: The Invincible or The Invisible?


Next GE: Oh! Where art thou?


Alternative Choices: The frying pan or the deep blue sea!


From the alternative choices , I think the common denominator will be "fish and chips"!


Aiyooooooh!!!!!!!!!!!

50 comments:

monsterball said...

Indonesia had blind Wahid.
Malaysia will have red lips!

monsterball said...

I wonder whether Romerz appreciates you comment at Doc's blog..to wake him up.
Under whatever disguise...whatever reasons Dr. Shu may put out...and supported by few ...his suppoters are either.. "boh lam par"..'kia se" people...being led astray by Doc.. who loves politics...like .under the disguise..to change Koh Tsu Koon's mind....for this or that.
Yes..Dr.Shu...needs to check his own conscience.
Playing with the lives and futures of Malaysians....by supporting...Gerakan..who is in ..BN...and proven beyond any doubt.. love to play race politics.....and treating UMNO as their godfather...is the worst kind of Malaysian Chinese....we hope to have ....as friends.
No matter how successful some Gerakan members are...they are the scums of the Earth..in Malaysia..keep contributing...to frustrate Malaysian Chinese and Indians...to migrate elsewhere.
They are so well educated...so smart and so able....that they are there...with the hope...to strike it rich..one way or another.
Strange that Dr.Shu keeps his eyes...totally blind towards the obvious bad results of the so many years ..Gerakan managed Penang.
Strange...he does not feel the pains and sorrows...of the helpless and less educated...in Penang...yet he spoke of saving anything..if there is 1% hope.
Gerakan have proved top be 100% balls carriers to corrupted UMNO...resulting Penang is such a poor State now.
What he meant was...he will do anything to save Gerakan and not Penang people.
So what kind of doctor is he...saying he will never give up saving ...even with 1% hope. Is he a medical doctor talking human beings.. or something else?
So we now know...Dr. Shu...is exposing himself...to be a dirty..selfish...cunning political doctor.....now going for the big opportunity..kill..to be a full fletched...politician...with opportunity to rub shoulders with UMNO king pins..like Najib??
Yes....few commentators...in his blog .. are sarcastically telling him off.
Yet he ignored..showing...he has developed a thick skin face too...very necessary to be a successful....dirty politician..in the company of UMNO and BN.
He will ignore....as right now..his constant loyal supporters are True Malaysian...Romerz and one newcomer.
Judging from that..constant two...plus one...he is not important at all ...in his quest for fame.... in Gerakan.
But it is very sad...to see such an educated man...do support race politics...in every way...I read it.

Dr hsu said...

Justin, we actually have no oppostiton in the country. Both BN and Pakatan in a sense are ruling party.

There is a vacuum between these 2 party system to have a small third force to act as watchdog. Gerakan should fulfill this role and that is what I am trying to convince the grassroots and leaders.

Romerz had seen me arguing with KTK with fear and favour and that is the way i argued with all the other gerakan leaders too. Gentle,use logic but never fear. talk loud and firm.

But I have a timeframe.

dr hsu said...

without fear or favour, there is a mistake in above comment.Justin, pls correct

monsterball said...

There we go again..the third force factor..making Gerakan most powerful.'
Shit!! Have we not heard enough of these sickening logics?
I repeat..FOR OR AGAINST!!
And applying to agree by disagreeing ..tactic in such arguments..will not work.
Pakatan is NOT the ruling party!!
UMNO is!!
So...next election...we reverse the result.....and let Dr.Shu put out the same logic.

monsterball said...

Penang will stay with DAP for a very long time.
If Romerz is smart and want to bet on a horse...he should know Gerakan is finished in Penang.
So where can Gerakan go and have Koh Tsu Koon as head of State...TIMBUKTU???
Wake up..Romerz!!!
Dr.Shu is different. He can say anything....but politics is in his blood...and do have the character...personality..brain .to play it to his advantages. Sadly ...racial politics...is what he likes. So very clear.

monsterball said...

Justin...Your message how to be a leader...responding to for Romerz...in Doc's blog...and look how true malaysian...immediately..apply the excellent art of how to agree to disagree...followed by few.
Yes....Dr.Shu's blog have his own kind.
Birds of the same feathers...sure flock together.
But some are doing the dirty job...to expose those Malaysians...that will never make Malaysia...a united country.

Justin Choo said...

Monsterball,

Just like to remind you that it's spelt Dr. H S U.

Each person has his/her own opinion and affiliation. We should respect that.

monsterball said...

ooopp...Sorry Doc Hsu! Not intentionally.
Politicians love to repeat over and over again...so that everyone will believe them
Dollah said..UMNO does not play race and religion politics.
Only idiots believe him.
That's why..he is going out.
Dr.Hsu..keep repeating same message....and same advise ..to others...."talk till you drop dead"
So he talk talk talk...how Gerakan can play.. the so call watchdog role.
Lesser intelligent people will think that's so logical....but he knows....if that come true....Gerakan will be most powerful.
Justin....I am talking till I drop dead..as advised by Doc..without selfish ulterior motives.
Yes....Justin...one should respect another person's point of views...but I have seen my friends burnt to death....protecting Chinese.
I have seen thousands of companies owned by Chinese went bankcrupt...because of Mahathir.
I have seen Koh carry balls of Mahathir and Dollah.
I have seen Penang rot...to the bottom...no more pearl of the Orient.
I have seen Gerakan supports race politics.
I have seen how filthy rich......few welknown Gerakan member became...but all done ....so call..legally.
I have seen poor Chinese slogged...and slogged...with no complaints...as the power to convince was more powerful that the minorities political people....voices can never be heard..except going to jail....for defending a poor Muslim woman.
Today...I see some justices done.......and that man....is now the CM of Penang.
Not even one term....
"talk till you drop dead"...is applied..by DR.Hsu...to ensure UMNO and BN rule again...so that Gerakan will rise from the graveyard.
In name sake...Gerakan is alive.
In reality...it is almost a dead party...with 1% hope.
Doc..is a life saver!!
You mean Penang voters need Dr.Hsu to teach them ...how to vote...next election?
So he if for...Gerakan. I am against.
That's how I write.....and I have been consistent.
Let readers and visitors judge us.

monsterball said...

In Doc's blog...I try so hard.to respect him...and choose not to be so blunt.
But few occasions I did...he applied the 'MAY I' formula...diplomatically...telling me to fcuk off.
I now invite him to battle me in the .'middle ground'..at this blog...with Justin's permission....to talk about Gerakan.
I have spoke so much...on the party and on my judgement of his character..and ulterior motives.
Again..keep denying...one day...all will believe him.
I say Dr.Hsu is a hypocrite and supports race politics. I say.he is trying to get votes for Gerakan...from his blog. Lets start with that.

Justin Choo said...

Monsterball,

Why do you want to start a war again?

Live and let live.

monsterball said...

Justin..This is not a war.
Remember many read and do not comment.
If I do not speak till I drop dead..my views...someone will keep on converting votes for Gerakan...by speaking his logic.till he drop dead...with few machais.
I have to counter fight....so that readers have a choice.
There is time ...to live and let live...and time to live and let die.
I am going to do my part..to make sure Gerakan....retires...faded out.
Just like we walk in protests..internet do convert voters..with smart speakers and twisters.
I repeat..this is not about humans middle road.
It is for or against..until 13th election.

monsterball said...

You know Justine...man's best friend is a dog...because they are not that smart to be so cunning. They can be cunning and naughty...but in the innocent ways.
But once they love you...they will love you forever.
Did you see that famous Hokkien movie..made in Taiwan.."Chu Kan..Tang Bui Bor"...also became a famous song...some 45 years ago?
Translate into English.."Do you want to sell your empty bottles?
I simply love that song and watched the movie....more than 5 times.
Do you remember.the dog died...saving the master ..crossing the road?
And in real life..dogs do save many lives...and some dogs...do die..when they know...the master
passed away.
My love for dogs....started..very young..as my father..never lived without a dog. He simply love to own a dog.
When I was a young father...I had to concentrate...how to bring up my babies and forego...owning a dog..for years.
It was...when I made it...and babies became...young children ...some 30 years ago..that I started to own dogs.
I was so crazy for dogs..bought..2 miniature pinchers....dobohman...alsatian..bull mustif...one each...and fortunately..my gardener love dogs too.
Later on..I gave you alsatian and bull mustif...to friends..as Dobohman...became the dominate one.
I regretted very much.as the Doboman..was a dangerous huge dog...to own...with tiny tots around.
So I gave that away..and focus on small dogs...until today.
I have 8 pugs and 2 chihwahwa...and the 2 chihwahwa plus one pug...always in the house. The other 6 pugs are caged outside...and one very old grandmother..sleep in the hall.
The in house dogs...do their business in toilets and sleep with me....every night.
Believe me...anyone who love animals...are more loving humans.

Justin Choo said...

Monsterball,

Yes the "bottle" TV serial, I have also watched it, but not so impressed as with Chow Yun Fatt's "Man In The Net". The latter was superb, the castings, the characters, the story lines...10 upon 10. That was also the first serial I watched.

It's good you digress a bit. Good for everyone.

Don't worry about Dr Hsu and Gerakan. Dr Hsu is a very cultured gentleman, at least as far as I have "read". As you know I have yet to meet him. Even having met we can't say we can know a person just like that. But his credentials are impressive.

Also don't worry about Gerakan. It's a spent force. Jocylene's comment in the Star (I didn't read that article)that the "only way is up" for the Gerakan is just plain rhetoric, a stale cliche! Gerakan is down the dumpsite, and the only way is to decompose into mother nature; about time too after such a prolonged delay!

Yes dogs, I used to be very interested in dogs. I have also kept many breeds, GSD, Dobermann, sausage, bull terrier, boxer, spitz, and of course locals. I also tried breeding and participated in competition. I can also train them. But unfortunately dogs don't have affinity with me. I didn't get to own the real affectionate dogs. The only one I loved was a mongrel I adopted from the Ampang SPCA. He was a gem; when I came home, he would "howl" and come to me, sit straight with his head high waiting for me to pad it. But again "bo kao mia" (No dog life), he died only after a week or so. Very sad for my utter stupidity to send him to SPCA for help and meekly let the idiot Mrs Wheatley of SPCA put him to sleep. I should have brought him back to seek help from a vet. I never forgave myself for this very stupid indecision.

I am now very apprehensive of dogs. Like my sisters said I "kiam kao chair" (owe debt to the dogs, now pay-back time).

Now I have a big fat "pig" to feed. It's a mix of spitz and a large breed. Now she looks like a sheep. I didn't want her actually knowing my ill fate with dogs. It was given as a puppy to my daughter as a present. I spayed her; and maybe bec of this she is so lazy and never bother to greet me even in the morning when I open the door. Now I have to take care of her. Looks like a daughter's antics are not enough but have to endure the extra doggy burden. Hahahaha!!

I think that's enough.

Have a nice day.

monsterball said...

Justine..Hokkien call dog..'kow'
Can you tell me why?
How did that word 'kow' came to identify ..'dog'?
Then 'kow'...also mean figure 9.
And 9 is earthly...magic figure...especially for smart Muslims...and mathematicians.
From 1-10..car owners will pay very high prices...except 4.
Only Indians buy that number.Give it to Chinese....FOC...they also don't want.

dr hsu said...

Justin, I have no wish to start any war, but certain people has twisted and twisted facts. If I am for racial poltics, why should I ask gerakan to move out of BN? The whole party knows my stand.

It is the same logic as not migrating when the country is being ruled by tyrants. You stay and fight. You dont just quit and migrate.

What's wrong to ask Gerakan be the watchdog between the 2 fronts?

Any organisation also needs check and balance to ensure it follows the direction set out by the members. Same with a country., There must be check and balance whichever front gets into power.

What is wrong with check and balance? ICAC is one such organisation to ensure no corruption. A party in between the 2 can support whichever fronts that advocate good policies.

What is wrong with that? SOme Gerakan members who went over in KL just 2 weeks back were promised positions and given trips to HK. Is this culture healthy?

dr hsu said...

If i want to rub shoulder with Najib, why should ask Gerakan to move out? Do u know that even UMNO views me as dangerous in tryig to move the grassroots to move the party out? If Gerakan goes out, it could cause a domino effects and would it not help the other side?

Do not just call people's names by calling people selfish etc, read deeper and anlayse and see the logic.

Why should I choose this moment to try to contest CC? I could have been an MP if I wanted to for i was offered to stand in GE , for your info.... I was asked to be KL chairman and I turned down. Why should i go contest a CC position now when there is nothing anymore in the party?

It is precisely now that the party has nothing left that I am going in to try to influence the leadership to take the party out, and in the process, make itself live again. I am also pushing for an EGM.

Ask that person to use his brain, Justin. He is not thinking but just cursing and cursing. The mentality is no better than Maha Tail, anyone disagreeing with him , he scolds without using logic and thinking logic.

I do not wish to response anymore, but just ask him to think logically..... I person who wants to go out of BN wants to rub sholder with BN leaders, what kind of logic is that.

My only fault is trying to rescue Gerakan, whose ideology is not wrong.

dr hsu said...

Justin, ask romerz how we debated with KTK in Penang. If I wanted the easy way out, I would have just shut up and get the blessing of the leaders to move into the CC, the easy way. Why should I do the hard way?

Why should I be viewed as dissendent if i wanted to rub shouldr with Najib? Does he read Malaysian Insider or NST which knows that I am the most vocal of the grassroots ? Is my behaviour pro-UMNO and anti-UMNO? Justin, you are just, you tell me. And I have been consistent.

He just want to character assassinate anyone not agreeing with him...

dr hsu said...

Maybe I use a simpler analogy, so that that fellow can understand, since i think his brain is so occupied with self ego, there is little space for anything else.

If you want to ask a wife to leave a bad husband, are you a supporter of the bad husband? Are you trying to get into the good book of the bad husband so that to rub shoulder with the bad husband's father ? Will it not be simpler to ask the wife not to leave the bad husband if you want to get into the good book?

Justin,I know after this, he will use all sort of bad languages, and name calling to call me..

monsterball said...

"And Brutus is a gentleman.
So are all all gentlemen"
So said Mark Antony to all his enemies.
But best was my late father.
He said.."The Devil can quote Scriptures"
And I quote.."Gerakan is down the dumpsite, the only way is to decompose into m other nature"
So said Justine.
Justine...I will ignore...useless arguments...unless you give me permission.
What about 'kow'??

Justin Choo said...

Monsterball,

As with all Chinese dialects, a change in the intonation can mean a different meaning.

"Kow" or "Kau" if pronounce in the fourth intonation means dog or nine in Hokkien.

If pronounced in the third intonation, it will mean "enough" or thick or arrive.

So let this "kau" be in the third intonation "kau liao lah" ...."enough already lah"!

Talk about the beauty of language!!

cilyhot said...

Justin,I am belated and vindicated.I always hold this consistent view that our flip flop had very LOUSY advisors.ROCKY BRU just mentioned it!For a good leader,he needs a pool of good masterminds ESPECIALLY when someone with average IQ like uncle Lah.His final desperado act before 308 in challenging the voters to make a CHOICE is a FIASCO!!HE actually ask us to vote for the opposition!!He LOSE touch with the ground!!His advisors are to be blamed as they are too NAIVE and make this flip flop into a case of the EMPEROR without his clothes!!

Justin Choo said...

Cilyhot,

This fellow is not an emperor.

Look at the line-up for the Umno VP contenders. Sends shivers down your spine. A vote for BN is endorsing the "future PM" as presented in this line-up.

"Bo chao si!!" (Hokkien)
"No run, die lah!!"

cilyhot said...

DR Hsu,May I say something.sorry to pour cold water over your head BUT according to my opinion,(we should agree to disagree,in a civilised manner,OK?)AS LONG AS KTK IS THE HEAD OF YOUR PARTY,HE WILL NOT LEAD YOUR PARTY OUT OF BN.Why??His too nice 'straight 'character!!He is not SHREWD enough to make the bold and pioneer move.If you look at ktk's history in your party(relying on 'saliva shooter' to protect and cruise him to higher post AND also his 'play safe'statements to the media)He is not the MAN to do it!You and romecz and veonshu can DEBATE with him until all the cows go home,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I can confidently bet with you that he will NOT DO it!!(Capital letters=important ,not anger or scolding)

Justin Choo said...

Cilyhot,

KTK will "think about it"!!!!

Badawi will "sleep on it"!!!!

Mahathir will "keep at it"!!!

Dr Hsu will "keep poking it"!!!

Romerz will "keep reminiscing it" !!!

Monsterball will "keep kicking it"!!!

cilyhot said...

Justin,as I said before,e need our friends in Sabah and Sarawak now to save us from this tyranny.Please our friends over there ,,,,,,,,,TALK and MAKE SENSE to your MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT.PLEASE!!then you will see many ' goons' dropping out of the vice race in amno.peanuts only who want??maybe monkeys!!

cilyhot said...

JUstin,GOOD WORK!How about You?Justin will keep................it.(PLease fill in the blank)

Justin Choo said...

Cilyhot,

The present scenario is a waiting game. It's the game of the musical chair, but with a twist. Usually when the music stops, the person is to perform an act. This time around the rules are different. It's a psychological game. When the music stops all will do a "follow-the-leader-elephant walk".

Each is waiting for the others to pull the trigger!

This reminds me of the scenario when we played marbles during our younger years. The marbles all placed on a straight line, and the shooter at a distance with a marble would try to knock out the marble on the extreme left; by doing so he got all the marbles. There would come a time when all the players would gather round the line of marbles, and with a psychological twist, some smart Ali would without warning grab as much marbles from the line, and that act would trigger a free for all; sometimes resulting in fist fights!!

Just you wait!!

cilyhot said...

one thing is confirmed.Do not expect ktk to pull the trigger.Sapp had done it but nobody want to follow for reasons best known to themselves!!Now we need another HERO to do it.Please who will be the Ali in your story??We need HIM.(Capital letters=importance.not anger or scolding)

monsterball said...

Justin...Hokkien have a sentence..."pak see..bor chow"....literally mean..."die die..I will not run".....correct?
When my Hokkien friends have food with me..they often said.."se bay lor liow"...meaning..."excellent food"??
I simply love the Hokkien style of manly talks.
Is Romerz Hokkien?
And lastly Justine....you said.."kau liao lah"..."enough already lah"
You mixed Hokkien with melayu lah!!..You baba siow ah?....hahahahahahaha

monsterball said...

That is..."see bay hor liow"...not "lor liow"

monsterball said...

kan nee nia boh!!
kong wa pian lai... pian kee
kusi kong...nor kor quat..buan sak
kia chit...ai..poh kee tong.
kan yee gay nia boh...chow chee pai.
Justin....how's my Hokkien?

monsterball said...

Justine...will keep voting for a better tomorrow.
That's good!!
And I will keep kicking...till the day Malaysia is strong with a change of government..not being just a strong opposition..and then...twisted by some... to get voters...keep supporting BN.
These are the 100% racialists..under the disguise as Malaysians.

monsterball said...

If Malaysian Chinese are real Malaysians....ALL should let those two parties die!!
Keep talking cock and bull...forgetting the more than 20 years...carry balls of UMNO.
How on earth one...can talk so much....grabage..when it can be so simple...just resign...from Gerakan....and finished with it.
But no...this or that...suggestions...to focus..keeping Gerakan alive.
Can he for once...feel the many sins Gerakian have committed....betraying Penang folks...especially the Malaysian Chinese?
Can he also realised Gerakan supported race and religion dirty politics?
Can he also see Gerakan supports massive corruptions?
Justine...can you understand that husband and wife logic?
How about he try to understand..if he has a evil son...rob...steal and make life miserables for others for more than 20 years....he should disown that son.
But one like him...and many selfish..rich politicians cannot do so...as the son.is more important than the thousands of sons..his son have hurt.
Such a man.is simply...too selfish.
What more.with a smart and sharp brain...to fool others.
I read and read....and wonder...what kind of Malaysian Chinese..talking that way..except the kind..that are selfish...sly fox..and learn the art of talking like a politician..not as a Malaysian at all.
How come a wise man got so much nonsense?
How come a freedom fighter...keep being so unfair?
How come..a smart man...behave so stupid?
How come a wise smart freedom fighter..is such a stupid man?
Tell your friend...to tell all his logics to the marines.
As long as he is supporting Gerakan to be alive...I am against him..all the way.
He said he will resign in two months...one month ago.
Now he is standing for Gerakan.. election!!
Talk is cheap!! Be a minister than talk. Don't dream.
And ask him...to check his past few months comments....did he ever contradict himself.
If he said he is consistent..it is the art..only politicians can understand.
I also can read him like a book. Can he read me?
Sorry...to go against your.. "kau liao lah".

monsterball said...

The two parties I am referring to..are MCA and Gerakan.
Both can go to hell!!

monsterball said...

All those comparisons...and so call logical explainations.....means nothing...as long as your good friend...stick to Gerakan...like a leech..which mean...he is a die hard Gerakan supporter.
Gerakan committed GREAT GREAT sins. ...and if one...still ignore that...than he is a racialist.
Let him deny that!!
And strange as it may be...he actually think Gerakan is a saint party!!!..based on the so call...great menefesto of the party...and not by the evil actions and deeds done..all these 20 years....hurting the very race....they claim to protect.
They are exactly like MCA.
One nice day..I will put out a message...comparing a medical man...way of life and thoughts...as against a businessman.
Both are professionals...but far far apart in real life.
Who is more practical..more logical...more open minded..more sincere..??
Just go and recall your own doctor with yourself.

jamescha said...

well,i can tell u that gerakan is all about money,money, and more money as said by LKY. nothing else understand!!!!!!!! so lets kick them out come GE 13.

Justin Choo said...

jamescha,

Gerakan HAD been kicked out!

monsterball said...

ooooppp!! Justin threw my message to dustbin?

Justin Choo said...

Monsterball,

What do you mean? I have never thrown out any comment.

monsterball said...

Check your dustbin...if there is one.
I clicked...and it did not appear in the blog!

monsterball said...

Nevermind Justine.
This is not the first time...my message suddenly disappeared in few blogs.
But when I complaint at Sheih's and Susan's blogs....the message appeared.
This means...it is in their dustbins..rejecting...maybe .due to certain words...cannot be approved.
However...at Rockybru's blog...4 letter words are allowed and depending how you use them.
Rocky is more open minded and subscribed to freedom of speeches.
By the way..congratulation to 'your friend'...being elected into Gerakan election.

Justin Choo said...

Monsterball,
If I reject any comment, the comment will be removed but will be replaced by something to the effect of "comment deleted".

monsterball said...

OK Justin...message gone to hell.I presume. Not important.
Again congratulations to your friend....in Gerakan.
GO read his latest post.
Gerakan as ...
"third force".
I have enough of the so call two opposite forces...that needs a third force...like a kuching kurap...balls carrying...thick skinned party .corrupted party...like Gerakan... trying to play..'Charlie Angels"...by a smart new group...planning..how to kill two birds with one stone..as a so call..third force...as well as a protector of justices for all Penang folks...being the most powerful pawn in a chess game.
Shit...who does these Gerakan people think Malaysians Chinese are....in Penang??

Bow said...

Gerakan is history, even mid level umno warlord in Penang can spit on their leader, showing you how many worms are in that party,still talking about fighting for Malaysians by using tai -chi against umno war lord.

Those poor Penangites are getting screwed by Gerakan for so long.

Bow said...

Go to tell umno war lord agree to disagree, continue to play the role of "Chinese eunuch", good luck ! Gerakan.

Bow said...

One is crumbling, the other stumbling, so Justin, only bloggers are left standing tall right now?

Justin Choo said...

bow,

Bloggers are moaning!

Bow said...

Justin, only those that are free are moaning, but not those under ISA -education camp, they are suffering now.

Bow said...

It's really amazing to read that flip flop is the father of democracy in Malaysia, according to the eunuch.

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